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Clarence is the closest thing to a Christian on the UCLA campus.
Christ and the apostles weren't murdered because they were politically correct and because they did good things for people. They were murdered because wicked sinners unwilling to repent were convicted and took it out on them.
of course you'd say that... you have no problem with being wrong.
Tony did nothing wrong but be honest. Truth hurts and most people can't handle truth. Screaming and yelling to draw attention to a quiet conversation is a sign of guilt, fear and hardened heart. Throwing f bombs is definately not christian. We cannot decieve ourselves. We should judge ourselves daily and repent so we won't be judged.
Christianity is not a sales pitch so it is not to be made more appealing to suit others. This is a common argument of the non Biblical emergent church. To preach in this manner is perfectly Biblical. It is not designed to be appealing to more but my be a message to one person. Funny while you criticize Christians who are preaching Bionically you don't see even worse of the professing Christian. Judging righteously is not prohibited in the Bible.
That is one angry young man. Pray for him brothers and sisters in Christ so he won't hurt someone and himself.
Wow.. looks like a nerve was hit with Clarence. These are those times when you know your words made an impact on False-Converts. They get rowdy & their flesh rises to the surface like nobody's business. \o/ Praise God for your efforts in proclaiming the truth of the gospel to these students. May the Lord stir their hearts until they become willing to turn to Him.
Amen
especially for this new generation we need to come down to their level to get through to them otherwise it wont work!. I Pray that we can change our approach to this world of unbelievers, we can truly save more people if we change the way we talk to them. we can still get the same message out but in a different way. GODBLESS
Basically what i am trying to say is we need to find a better way of spreading the news of Christ? when i talk to someone about Christ i do it in a way thats slow and at their pace a way that i can reel them in slowly but surely then once they are in i let them know the BIG SCARE! of going to hell if they continue on the road they are. we think we are helping ppl when we are only pushing them away by coming off so judgmental as they say we are.
I think we as Christians should approach non Believers or those who say they know God but really don't in a more approachable manner... sometimes the way we come off can seem a little judgmental and no one likes to be judged! even though its true that we are "Liars Thieves" etc. when you tell these ppl that it kind of makes them feel as if there is no chance in even repenting of sin and turning from their ways. its kind of like we give them a BIG scare before we tell them the GREAT news first!
A sorry example of post-modern university "education". Postering and bolster. Very little true logic or reasoning. Lots and lots of seething, bubbling rage. Once caught in his ranting psycho-babble, this poor man sticks mindlessly to his "guns" in order to save face only to be scoffed at by the very audience he tried to steal for himself. Got to hand it to Tony (I wonder if Tony ever thought, "What if this guy takes a swing at me?"). Great job, Living Waters Team, Tony, Mark & all.
this proves Santorum is right. there is indoctrination going on in colleges.
Tony Miano is commiting marketing suicide from a modern church growth perspective by talking about sin and God's wrath and also he travels out to places far from his home church in Granada Hills to preach to people, who would be extremely unlikely to join his church anyways even if they decide to accept the lord, because most believers go to churches in their local communities. So you can only logically conclude that he is doing what he does out of sincerity for the word of God.
That is a strawman argument, open air evangelists almost never preach with the intention of getting people into their particular church, only with the intention of getting them to accept Jesus as their lord and savior on the basis of knowledge of and repentence from their sins. If you want to see a real business, watch the megachurches on TBN where they teach unbiblical health and wealth doctrines and never speak of sin or condemnation.
I think you guys are so awesome for Jesus!!!
Religion is a business, for some. But why you are judging all religions by the minority who are wrong? Thousands of people are doing good work in the name of religion. Don't discount work of great ppl like Martin Luther King as a business. Bad things come out of church because ppl are unfaithful to Christian values and doctrine, not because they are following them. They will be judged. And "tidings" means message. "Tithing" is a tenth donation. Make sense?
And here you are giving your opinion about "so called christians". How judgemental of you. Do you vote? Isn't that passing judgment? If you witnessed a murder, would you call that person a murderer? Wouldn't that make you judgemental? Is Jesus God? If he is, then you need to heed his words. John 7:24, Jesus says to judge correctly, and not by appearances, hypocrisy, or hatred. If ppl can't judge, then ppl are paralyzed in determining right from wrong. You need to think about it
Clarence is being convicted and he knows he is wrong. Yelling, swearing in the same sentence of using the Lord's name in vain....Get on you knees and pray and repent!
Amen!!
It seems what you don't understand is that they're not telling others how to live "their version of faith," they're telling them how to live "Jesus' way," as you will notice, they're using and quoting from the Bible.
Clarence should not get defensive when he is being rebuked by a brother in faith who is speaking from the word of God. If you know you're inperfect, suck up the criticism and work on your weaknesses.
"praying for" is also okay.
What exactly are you referring to? What part of my comment? and how am I wrong?
your right but let god judge him an not you which your are a man ..the bible says at john 8:7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. also it says "mathew 7;1 do not judge or you to will be judged ..my pastor told me that 90 percent of so called christians dont read there bible an everyone here on these comments ..havent quoted the bible once an thats sad