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btw you may have heard of occupy wallstreet. That movement is in reaction to obamas lack of change once in office. I held up an obama is a liar sign at a occuppy rally and received cheers from everybody.
I have no doubt that democrats would be out on the streets with signs en masse though I don't really understand what that had to do with our conversation. Maybe you should ask yourself that question as well. Anyways, there is no doubt that the system we currently have has several names such as globalism (nafta), statism (ndaa), corporate fascism (obamacare, corporate subsidies, GE pays negative tax rates). Marxism doesn't play any role in it.
What would you call Obama's form of Constitutional subversion, then? Any clear, actual definition of this? You lefties would have been on the street with signs en masse if Bush had signed the NDAA. Where are y'all now?
There is no way that anyone is just going to march right out and start shoving naked marxism down everyone's throat. Marxists have had real staying power and patience in this country by passing small laws that will get them to their final goals (and ACTUAL definition of marxism). You really can't expect us to be that ignorant. Look at cultural Marxism...IT IS EVERYWHERE in the form of political correctness. That you can't deny. And it is marxism.
Just because he is doing things that are marxist-esque...doesn't make him a marxist? I just don't get what you want me to tell you. You are going to see whatever you want to see in your hero. You can't see the forest through the trees. Whenever a leader takes from one group of people to give out (redistribute) to another...we are in marxist-land. Obama clearly does this...I'm not sure what you want to hear from me? My pot is so full of piss it is fucking overflowing.
marxism is not some general feeling or undertone. It is a specific system with an actual definition. You can't say things are marxist just bc they are bad.
Well if you made valid arguments I might agree but since you don't have a pot to piss in...
Come on. I know ALL about Marxism...in it's many styling(s). The first thing you must do under marxism is getting everyone to think and act the same (towards the collective). I am not going to get into it more than this because you are being argumentative and you are going to see what you want to see. It's that simple, really.
I agree with everything you said yet you didnt provide any evidence why the ndaa bill is marxist. lol I think you should go look at the definition of marxism.
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It puts more control of the people into the hands of the government. It allows the legal institution in the USA to make decisions to put you in jail solely on what they may perceive as a threat from someone who doesn't believe what the institution wants you to think. It puts decisions whether or not to jail someone entirely in the "hands" of the institution of government; not probable cause or merit. That is part and parcel of marxism.
Obama's policies are virtually identical to the ones implemented by:
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin in 1917 Russia
Josip Broz Tito in 1945 Yugoslavia
Mao Zedong (Tse-tung) in 1949 China
Fidel Castro in 1959 Cuba
Hugo Chavez in 1999 Venezuela
Is that Marxist enough for you?
how is ndaa marxist?
How about the NDAA and the nationalising of healthcare and the banks...there's 3 for ya! Next obviously stupid question!
The NDAA...for starters. How many more would you like me to give you.